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Post by NOT MONGO on Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:12 pm

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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:02 pm

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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:12 pm

$400.

That ain't bad. Let's hope they have enough.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:22 pm

The multiplayer being PS+ only is definitely something worth mentioning, because that's an extra $50 a year for a pretty key feature.

It really just seems like Sony and Microsoft switched scripts from when they launched PS3 and Xbox 360. Without much time between launches, we'll see pretty quickly how it works out.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:07 pm

i dont know how "controversial" this statement may be but it almost seems like XBOX ONE is inhabiting a future world where everything is always connected. so in a way it seems more like future-tech than Sony's PS4- which seems pretty much more of the same from this generation and isnt that much of a leap? Do you see where im coming from?
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Robo-Pussy on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:39 pm

Freelancer wrote:The multiplayer being PS+ only is definitely something worth mentioning, because that's an extra $50 a year for a pretty key feature.

It really just seems like Sony and Microsoft switched scripts from when they launched PS3 and Xbox 360. Without much time between launches, we'll see pretty quickly how it works out.

Yea for me thats a big deal because as a super casual gamer I might play a game online once every month or two. I loath the idea of paying $50 a year so a play online a handful of times...

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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:28 pm

NOT MONGO wrote:i dont know how "controversial" this statement may be but it almost seems like XBOX ONE is inhabiting a future world where everything is always connected. so in a way it seems more like future-tech than Sony's PS4- which seems pretty much more of the same from this generation and isnt that much of a leap? Do you see where im coming from?

Yeah, I understand that. I think the Kinect requirement that allows for voice and motion command is pretty cool. Outside of that though, even if it seems inevitable that we'll own machines like this that provide everything but tie it to our universal account under the pretense that we report back to the company every day, it just sounds bad. What Microsoft is doing is copying Apple and the iOS environment. The reason they don't get away with it is because they're not offering anything as dazzling or new as the iphone or ipad. The PS4 does most of what the Xbox One does with possibly less compromises.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:27 pm

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/26/35gb-of-playstation-4-ram-reportedly-reserved-for-os

i guess im not really that surprised... but still you would think more RAM would be reserved for the XBONE since it can theoretically do more... but still thats a significant hit in RAm even though GDDR5>>GDDR3... PS4 wont have that much of a significant leap over XBOX ONE...
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:17 pm

That is still unsubstantiated, but it isn't unlike Sony to lock away some of the power of the console early on and then unlock it later. The PSP was underclocked when it came out, and later unlocked with a firmware update.

Personally, I've never dealt with ram numbers this high, so I don't really know what the practical difference will be between 4.5 and 5 GB of ram, but it is worth noting that the PS4 uses GDDR5 and the X1 uses DDR3, so the pure numbers arent telling the whole story.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:14 am

Lol. I made note that gddr5 >>>> gddr3 several times. The big difference is latency... But still, if this is true ps4 does not have that much of a leap over the xbox. 3.5gb dedicated to the os is A LoT to say the least especially considering what we know so far about the PS4, it mainly plays games and doesnt do all that other shit the xbox can do which is really interesting. The xbox has basically 2.5-3 operating systems so 3gb of ram dedicated to it makes sense. So its surprising to hear about the 3.5 for the ps4 especially when gddr5 >>gddr3.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:19 am

Im really sold on the xbox.. No more usernames and passwords- just walk into a room and say xbox on and the kinect recognizes you and adjusts the settings tailored to you. The ability to change from one thing to the other on the fly, the recognition, etc makes it so immersive... Ill definitely buy the ps4 sometime later though because sony does have a lot of cool games planned...

Oh and now microsoft is going to allow each console to function as a dev kit for independent game studios just like the ps3-4... I just really cant see any limitations on the xbox any more.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:29 am

I guess I just read the link.

I think it's ridiculous to assume that the Xbox One will somehow have more features than the PS4. They might have more media deals, but in terms of available apps and that shit, I expect them to be more or less the same. I don't know about the camera stuff, but I saw how useful those cameras were over the last few years.

I have a PS4 on preorder, so we can share anecdotal stories later.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:24 am

Ok but this kinect can do a hell of a lot more than the previous one, some of the feautres ive mentioned.


It can also figure out how to position splitscreens based on where the players are sitting... Shit like that is very cool.. Everything that sony is claiming the ps4 can do, the One can also...
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:27 am

The only real difference is the remote play with the vita, but how is that working out for nintendo? Sony has a chance to make that attribute cool ill give them that. But smartglass is enough for me
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:31 am

It seems like a lot of people arent reading up on the xbox one... Which is strange because how can you write something off when you know nothing about it? Im not saying you G, but Chris mentioned this to me on fb that he barely knew anything about the xbox. I think thats strange..
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:52 pm

Well, I like the kinect features, I just don't believe that developers are going to spend a lot of time integrating it. I consider the possibilities hypothetical until I've seen them working. Sensing who is sitting on what side of the TV is great, but games with offline co-op are getting harder to find.

Another point, it seems like the Kinect and Xbox One gather a lot of information about you, and I feel confident that microsoft is either going to have a big file on every person, or they're going to have a file and also sell that information to third parties. So, it doesn't play well to my paranoia.

The remote play thing with PS4/Vita is neat, but I haven't seen it working so I don't know if it's lag free or not. It does differ from the Wii U, however, in that Sony has made it a requirement that games can be remotely played, and you don't lose a second screen by doing it. The only games that can do it on Wii U are ones that don't take advantage of the tablet controller.

I think the reason people are uninformed about the Xbox One is because Microsoft did a shit job explaining the Xbox One, and then was hit with a huge backlash, the company president whose been leading the coverage up and quit, and they've slowly changed their stance on multiple things. The other thing might be that they saw the extra $100 in the pricetag and said no thanks.

Microsoft is probably scrambling to get new marketing stuff together. They obviously weren't prepared for Mattrick to leave, because they had no one to replace him. Ballmer is interim president.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:40 pm

You dont think maybe he was fired because of the backlash? And didnt they hire some chick to become xbox president?
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Post by Garrett on Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:57 pm

I don't think so. He left to become CEO of Zinga, which probably didn't happen overnight.

Julie Larson-Green is, I guess, taking over for him, but she holds a different title than he held.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by winterborne1 on Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:02 pm

When both these machines come out, I'm probably going to visit this thread and read each of your arguments thoroughly before I make my first purchase.  Not even joking, here.  Whoever wins this argument in this thread is going to determine which console I buy first.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:16 pm

The most compelling arguments can't even take place until it's out.

Right now it's just Company A said they're gonna do this and Company B said this! I will say though, Sony and Microsoft have never released their consoles this close together, and that makes a big difference. PS3 was released nearly a year after the Xbox 360, and spent a long time catching up. The Xbox was released 19 months after the PS2, and never caught up.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:00 pm

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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:21 pm

Yeah, that's about what I figured.

I'm excited that both of these machines are huge leaps from what I've been playing games on for the last 7 or 8 years. I like that they've both adopted easy to develop for hardware/architecture, so I don't have to suffer through as much garbage in the early console life, and there should be less downtime between major game releases.

I want to start a videogame website that is endlessly enthusiastic about games and gaming instead of worrying about which company or piece of hardware is better than which other thing. When the PS3 and Xbox 360 were still new and almost every media outlet was shaming the PS3 and lauding the Xbox 360, I found it really unpleasant. As I get older, I want less and less to argue with anyone.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:28 pm

i wish Sony would create the hardware and Microsoft the software for a single Joint console to take on Nintendo, LOL....

We arent going to kid ourselves, we all know we are going to have both these consoles at some point...

And we can still agree that the PC is still the MasterRace lolz
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:17 pm

PC gaming is a pursuit I've never had the means to follow. I can hardly afford a computer that runs games, let alone better than on a console. Otherwise, I'm sure I'd have a rig for it.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Vezmus on Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:51 am

In the future, we will shoot-up games intravenously like heroin.
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Post by Garrett on Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:20 pm

I bet that feels great.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Jesse on Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:27 pm

pre-ordered the killzone launch bundle from amazon.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by NOT MONGO on Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:07 am

i didnt pre order the XBOX yet so I guess Im going to have to chance Black Friday? Jesus, I'm going to be fucked! Definitely going to take that day off lol!
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Garrett on Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:47 pm

Console launches really shouldnt be such clusterfucks.

It's conjecture, but I have to suspect they don't produce enough initially because it looks good on an investors sheet if they sell out and people are desperate to get them.
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Re: Lets talk about the PS4

Post by Jesse on Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:33 pm

i disagree. Everything they're doing seems like they're not giving themselves enough time to get these shits out in time. I'm assuming the second batch for either system wont be delivered until the following month.

The US seems to have the priority and everyone is just going to have to suck it up.
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