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Post by Garrett on Thu May 23, 2013 12:11 pm

Holy shit, what a bad press conference.

Here's what I took away:

    The Xbox One is, in fact, a download only console. They still distribute the games on discs, but those discs must install to the hard drive, and then you no longer need the disc. Sounds like a digital purchase to me.

    The Xbox One allows you to use other elements on the OS while games run in the background. I don't know when I'd use that, but being able to is nice nonetheless.

    If anyone on an Xbox One has a Gold account, the whole console has Gold membership. This is a huge improvement, but still, they didn't add incentive to gold.


They didn't do anything to assure me that they weren't going to make the same exact mistakes they made with the 360, They didn't reach out to gamers or developers, and frankly I'm concerned about their strategy. E3 is only a couple of weeks away, we'll learn more there.

On a side note, Call of Duty Ghosts has the most interesting foundation for a story for a Call of Duty game yet, in my opinion. It should be a fun 2 to 6 hours.

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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Thu May 23, 2013 4:59 pm

the fact that people are talking more about the xbox one than the ps4, says something whether its good or bad talk....

i definitely think its pretty cool talking to your tv...

waiting for e3 to form a more solid opinion... probably wont buy either one until my birthday in january.. im not really a gamer anymore so ill probably lean more toward the xbox...
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Toothbrush on Thu May 23, 2013 8:56 pm

So is GTA V going to be on Xbox One or what?
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Thu May 23, 2013 9:42 pm

I think people are talking about the Xbox One more right now because the PS4 conference was months ago.

GTA V is for current consoles. They want the big install base.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Fri May 24, 2013 1:51 am

How was that a bad press conference? It had all your prototypical bigwigs trying to look cool and push halo as some kind of iconic franchise. It exceeded at all levels of nerdish relevancy.

At least they showed the console. What an epic fail that was for sony lol.

My interest in the new generation is pretty low already. Theyre pretty similar it will be hard to make a case to have both now because of all the cameras....
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Fri May 24, 2013 1:18 pm

I thought it was pretty devoid of entertainment or excitement.

What did you like about it?
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Fri May 24, 2013 1:48 pm

multitasking, voice recognition, almost limitless potential with the kinect sensor... complete entertainment hub...

at least they were aiming more than just graphics and games... im no longer a big gamer so it piqued my interest...

sony could still wow... but so far it seems xbox one does everything ps4 does and then some- even recording gameplay which doesnt seem like it will be as big as they are making it seem...
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by winterborne1 on Fri May 24, 2013 2:00 pm

Probably gonna go with the Xbox on this one. Although, being an adult, having a job and all, I'm most likely going to end up with both systems.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Fri May 24, 2013 3:12 pm

Putting the kinect in the box is a smart move, but Sony showed off their camera too and the stunning failure of the whole kinect for 360/playstation move bullshit is still fresh in my mind.

I'm just concerned that any really interesting or innovative software will come to PS4 and not the X1, because there was no talk of developers making innovative games, or indie support at the X1 event, but plenty at the PS4 thing.

If you're really not concerned with games, I don't know why you'd go with a console at all, especially the one that requires a subscription to use other subscription services.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Fri May 24, 2013 9:10 pm

But its going to do cool things with the nfl and skype and internet explorer!
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Fri May 24, 2013 9:12 pm

winterborne1 wrote:Probably gonna go with the Xbox on this one. Although, being an adult, having a job and all, I'm most likely going to end up with both systems.

I agree but it will just be a nightmare to have these massive consoles and these large camera devices (especially centering them in a room-both lol)
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Fri May 24, 2013 9:13 pm

G-rot has always favored sony. Not sure why my decision to almost lean on microsoft is cause for all these questions.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Fri May 24, 2013 9:21 pm

Grots like "there were no games at microsofts press conference why do you think youll choose xbox?"

Me "im not a big gamer anymore but i like the other features"

Grot "but there are no games..."

Me "...que?"
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Toothbrush on Sat May 25, 2013 12:55 pm

It's difficult to get excited because I can't even remember the last time I played a video game. Being a teacher eats up pretty much all of my free time. My roommate plays my Xbox not stop though.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Robo-Pussy on Sat May 25, 2013 2:42 pm

I won't be getting either for a long time but I sold my 360 and bought a PS3 because of the free online play. For my purposes the quality was just as good. If online is free for PS4 that's what I'll go with again.

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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Sat May 25, 2013 9:11 pm

NOT MONGO wrote:G-rot has always favored sony. Not sure why my decision to almost lean on microsoft is cause for all these questions.

I apologize for giving you a chance to be articulate. I favor Sony's Japanese support, but I'm educated about videogames and can make honest assessments. I'm not just trying to justify my own purchase here.

If you don't want to listen to me, go read any videogame website right now, because they all talk about the nearly unilateral negative response to the X1's press conference. I just wanted to know why you liked it.

Suck a dick.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by winterborne1 on Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:18 pm

Honestly the system I'm really trying to get right now is the SNES. Anybody know of a good retailer I could snag one from?
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:35 pm

I don't know about old ones, but a company is making an authorized multiconsole that plays Nintendo, Super Nintendo, genesis, and gameboy games.

It's called RetroN 5, but they have older models without gameboy support.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by winterborne1 on Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:52 pm

Thanks I'll look that up.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by winterborne1 on Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:19 pm

My interest in the XB1 has waned a lot since I heard about all this DRM shit. My interest in the PS4 hasn't really gone up though.

However, my interest in the RetroN 5 is in the upper atmosphere.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:29 pm

We'll have to wait a few months and see how they really pan out. I'd be surprised if Microsoft said and did nothing to assuade people of these fears.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:04 pm

$500

I wonder if the Kinect being bundled drove up the price at all, and whether or not Sony will bundle their camera.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:16 pm

Im not surprised its 500$... If ps4 is 400$ (which i doubt) sony may have killed xbox lol
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:32 am

spoke too soon!

just how bad is this for microsoft?

this is like 10x worse than the RRoD and HD-DVD drive Add-On combined...
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:14 am

They'll have to scramble to find a way to make the Xbox One look more valuable or less expensive.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by uhoh on Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:27 am

The xbox one is very alienating. I get what they're trying to do but besides the Kinect it's not offering much difference than what the PS3 is. I hated the XBox and the bias carried over to the 360. I realized quickly but didn't care much that I was wrong about Microsoft's console and it's got a bit on PS3(online, better xbox live games than psn games and the Kinect). I was ready to be interested in this console but no.

Everything cool about the Xbox One is in it's multimedia/non-game related features.

The Kinect, while being really damn cool, is not something I'd like to pay 500$ to have access to.

I'm probably just spouting half of what's being said by everybody but yeah microsoft really lost me on this one.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:13 pm

In listening to developers talking, it seems that the always online requirement is lending itself to some game features. The cloud computing is "equal to three xbox 360s" and that's a bonus developers can rely on having because the system is required to be online. They also mentioned cloud servers and storage, which are obvious things, but it's something PS4 developers can't take advantage of.

The 24 hour check in is also necessary because if the disc is activated for someone else, they'll de-activate it for you; meaning if you sell the disc, you don't get to keep playing the game. That sounds like the same rules discs have always had. They account for lending with both a family share and a console share system and allowing profiles to be active on multiple consoles.

As I make sense of it, I begin to understand why the console is the way it is. For the people who can take advantage of it, it may be very cool. I'll wait and see.
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:54 pm

Well, nevermind what I just said.

The Xbox One doesn't have 24 hour check ins, always online requirements, and you can't play disc based games without the disc.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/19/xbox-one-80-microsoft-reverses-xbox-one-drm-features/
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by NOT MONGO on Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:46 am

I still dont understand what the big deal was over the original plans. You could digitally share your copy with 9 other people of your choosing. As long as you were friends with them for more than 30 days or some bullshit. Anyone else other than those 10 people and i think thats when the other person would have to pay a fee??
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Re: Let's talk about the Xbox One.

Post by Garrett on Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:17 am

I heard a rumor that you weren't sharing the whole game, it was more of a timed experience. 

If Microsoft really cared about delivering that service, they still would with downloadable games. The thing is, they never seem like they care, unless there's profit in it.
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